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	<description>Go on, you don&#039;t have to repeat everyone else&#039;s building and planning mistakes!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Mad, bad, and sad &#8211; just a road in Pasila by Ian Barrere</title>
		<link>http://jeesjees.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/mad-bad-and-sad-just-a-road-in-pasila/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Barrere]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a shame. I hope somebody can show them that it&#039;s not worth it before a mistake of this magnitude is made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a shame. I hope somebody can show them that it&#8217;s not worth it before a mistake of this magnitude is made.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mad, bad, and sad &#8211; just a road in Pasila by JeesHelsinki</title>
		<link>http://jeesjees.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/mad-bad-and-sad-just-a-road-in-pasila/#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JeesHelsinki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 04:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ian, at this point it&#039;s unclear if anything could be done. One&#039;s sense of justice says there has to be. Firstly on substantive grounds (the project is disastrous on so many counts) and on procedural counts. It appears that the committee were rubber stamping a decision made prior to their involvement by the city&#039;s real estate arm with the state. I&#039;m not sure if this might turn out to be illegal on some count. 
For some folks this might signal the start of a more robust kind of civil disobedience. Then again, in Helsinki terrible things often pass with some swearing and a shrugging of tired shoulders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian, at this point it&#8217;s unclear if anything could be done. One&#8217;s sense of justice says there has to be. Firstly on substantive grounds (the project is disastrous on so many counts) and on procedural counts. It appears that the committee were rubber stamping a decision made prior to their involvement by the city&#8217;s real estate arm with the state. I&#8217;m not sure if this might turn out to be illegal on some count.<br />
For some folks this might signal the start of a more robust kind of civil disobedience. Then again, in Helsinki terrible things often pass with some swearing and a shrugging of tired shoulders.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mad, bad, and sad &#8211; just a road in Pasila by Ian Barrere</title>
		<link>http://jeesjees.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/mad-bad-and-sad-just-a-road-in-pasila/#comment-507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Barrere]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there anything that citizens can do about it at this point? My city has a huge highway running through it (like many American cities) and I hope no city (especially one like Helsinki) should suffer the same fate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anything that citizens can do about it at this point? My city has a huge highway running through it (like many American cities) and I hope no city (especially one like Helsinki) should suffer the same fate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mad, bad, and sad &#8211; just a road in Pasila by JeesHelsinki</title>
		<link>http://jeesjees.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/mad-bad-and-sad-just-a-road-in-pasila/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JeesHelsinki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 05:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finnish readers, take a look here. http://www.soininvaara.fi/2013/04/23/kaupunkisuunnittelulautakunta-23-4-2013/
Democracy in Helsinki is not what it should be, we fear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finnish readers, take a look here. <a href="http://www.soininvaara.fi/2013/04/23/kaupunkisuunnittelulautakunta-23-4-2013/" rel="nofollow">http://www.soininvaara.fi/2013/04/23/kaupunkisuunnittelulautakunta-23-4-2013/</a><br />
Democracy in Helsinki is not what it should be, we fear.</p>
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		<title>Comment on International pants (make that under-pants) by Ike Moss</title>
		<link>http://jeesjees.wordpress.com/2012/11/22/international-pants-make-that-under-pants/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ike Moss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not that much resemblance to said undergarments, but perhaps a negative homage to London&#039;s very own Great Gurkin?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that much resemblance to said undergarments, but perhaps a negative homage to London&#8217;s very own Great Gurkin?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Day days by JeesHelsinki</title>
		<link>http://jeesjees.wordpress.com/2012/09/14/day-days/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JeesHelsinki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 07:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Instant, Africans, anybody else out there, and thanks for commenting. For a thoughtful view on something similar, in a mode that&#039;s less declamatory and more interrogatory and definitely brimming with thoughtful content, try Cindy Kohtala&#039;s excellent blog. https://blogs.aalto.fi/cindykohtala/2012/10/09/are-you-suffering-from-event-fatigue/ For on the Seventh (or thereabouts) Day, even a mortal needs a rest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Instant, Africans, anybody else out there, and thanks for commenting. For a thoughtful view on something similar, in a mode that&#8217;s less declamatory and more interrogatory and definitely brimming with thoughtful content, try Cindy Kohtala&#8217;s excellent blog. <a href="https://blogs.aalto.fi/cindykohtala/2012/10/09/are-you-suffering-from-event-fatigue/" rel="nofollow">https://blogs.aalto.fi/cindykohtala/2012/10/09/are-you-suffering-from-event-fatigue/</a> For on the Seventh (or thereabouts) Day, even a mortal needs a rest.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Day days by Hanging out at Park(ing) Day in Esplanadi &#124; Africans in Finland</title>
		<link>http://jeesjees.wordpress.com/2012/09/14/day-days/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hanging out at Park(ing) Day in Esplanadi &#124; Africans in Finland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] intriguingly named &#8220;Park(ing) Day&#8221; listed for Friday the 21st of September. Now while some bloggers have commented that there are too many &#8220;Days&#8221; in Helsinki, I&#8217;m greatly enjoying [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] intriguingly named &#8220;Park(ing) Day&#8221; listed for Friday the 21st of September. Now while some bloggers have commented that there are too many &#8220;Days&#8221; in Helsinki, I&#8217;m greatly enjoying [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Day days by Instant Kaamos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Instant Kaamos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about a day when everyone was free to do nothing at all? It could be called Vapaapäivä.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a day when everyone was free to do nothing at all? It could be called Vapaapäivä.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Great Transformation by Hanna-Leena Ylinen</title>
		<link>http://jeesjees.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/the-great-transformation/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hanna-Leena Ylinen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 06:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi! Thanks for mentioning that the City Planning Center is planning to chop down forests where it doesn&#039;t need to and linking it to Pro Meri-Rastila blog. The biggest problem here in East Helsinki is that people who are making plans that affect our daily life are not familiar with the area and besides they are not willing to listen to our views.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! Thanks for mentioning that the City Planning Center is planning to chop down forests where it doesn&#8217;t need to and linking it to Pro Meri-Rastila blog. The biggest problem here in East Helsinki is that people who are making plans that affect our daily life are not familiar with the area and besides they are not willing to listen to our views.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Great Transformation by JeesHelsinki</title>
		<link>http://jeesjees.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/the-great-transformation/#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JeesHelsinki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 12:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mikko, thank you. I look forward to reading some of those excellent-looking blogs you mention. 
I had actually thought of the &quot;great transformation&quot; as a metaphor for the way KSV, at the service of the Car and Business Parties in this town, is using its considerable weight to produce or at least facilitate c**p urban planning and design. But you are of course right that efforts are afoot, and they should be supported, to do better. That also means transforming what passes for acceptable and factual. For instance, Tolkku&#039;s blog http://tolkku.blogspot.fi/2012/08/vieraita-elamanmuotoja.html reminded me that the &quot;truth&quot; according to the Car Party [Kokoomus, surely, ed.] is, of course, nowhere near an accurate account of the world. I sincerely hope that more truthful truths will soon take over, and that Finland will cease to be a &quot;one-truth&quot; nation. (So frustrating when that one pravda, er, I mean truth, is such rubbish). 
Thanks again, wishing you success. JHJ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikko, thank you. I look forward to reading some of those excellent-looking blogs you mention.<br />
I had actually thought of the &#8220;great transformation&#8221; as a metaphor for the way KSV, at the service of the Car and Business Parties in this town, is using its considerable weight to produce or at least facilitate c**p urban planning and design. But you are of course right that efforts are afoot, and they should be supported, to do better. That also means transforming what passes for acceptable and factual. For instance, Tolkku&#8217;s blog <a href="http://tolkku.blogspot.fi/2012/08/vieraita-elamanmuotoja.html" rel="nofollow">http://tolkku.blogspot.fi/2012/08/vieraita-elamanmuotoja.html</a> reminded me that the &#8220;truth&#8221; according to the Car Party [Kokoomus, surely, ed.] is, of course, nowhere near an accurate account of the world. I sincerely hope that more truthful truths will soon take over, and that Finland will cease to be a &#8220;one-truth&#8221; nation. (So frustrating when that one pravda, er, I mean truth, is such rubbish).<br />
Thanks again, wishing you success. JHJ</p>
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